Taking Professor Stick to the Woodshed

A Deflating & Escaping Atheism hangout responds to Professor Stick, with a great video summarizing modern atheistic and scientism/materialist arguments.

The video begins with the usual intros and noting that Escaping Atheism is back after a 2 week hiatus. Max Kolbe discusses his serious technical issues, which required four trips to the repair shop.

Rob mentions that Mr. Spark, a regular commenter and fan, requested that Deflating Atheism and Max Kolbe take on a response video by Professor Stick. Professor Stick responded to a short video of Professor Alister McGrath, an atheist molecular bio-physicist who eventually became a Christian. Before watching clips of Professor Stick’s response video, Max Kolbe discusses Professor McGrath’s background in more detail. Rob and Max discuss the potential difficulties of the format and they begin the video.

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Captain Capitalism Doesn’t Understand Christianity or Atheism

Max Kolbe responds to a Captain Capitalism video discussing Christianity and “good” Christians versus “bad” Christians. Max observes that like many militant atheists, Captain Capitalism comes from an authoritarian to possibly dysfunctional religious household and has gone no farther in resolving or separating religion from his experiences. Refutes specific arguments within the video.

Recommend reading list/resources from  video:

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Why Atheism and TJ Kirk are ridiculous

All religious people should read and listen to TJ Kirk talk about religion. Christians especially should take note. This man wants to convert your children. He’ll call it “deconverting” because that’s the terminology his cult uses. Anyway, please do watch, and start paying attention to these people. They want to control your life and your kids’s life, and they lie when they say otherwise.

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Why Everybody Hates Atheism: Dissecting Kyle Kulinski

Escaping Atheism and Deflating Atheism throw on their waders and dive into the intellectual sewer of Kyle Kulinski’s “POLL: 63% Of Americans ‘Absolutely Certain’ God Exists”— as video that represents the absolute nadir of atheist stupidity, and the point at which New Atheism’s utter lack of promise becomes supremely manifest.

Noel Plum Doesn’t Understand ‘Escaping Atheism’

This is a response to Noel Plum’s YouTube video “Dean Esmay’s “Escaping Atheism” Project”.

Dear Noel,

Hi. I’m Eve Keneinan. I’m a philosopher by profession and an Orthodox Christian by way of adult conversion.  I’m also part of the Escaping Atheism project.  I know Dean Esmay, via the internet, but Escaping Atheism is more a volunteer confederation than a monarchy (we gave Dean the title “Patriarch”—I’m sure you can see why that’s funny), so this is just my thoughts on what you have to say.  Dean was one of the folks who proofread it, and had a couple corrections to the parts where I mention him, but this isn’t in any way from him.  It’s basically all me.  Sorry I couldn’t answer you on YouTube, but I don’t really make YouTube videos (unless occasional screen captures count), so my blog will have to do.  I’m afraid I didn’t work out whether this was going to be a commentary on what you had to say or a reply where I spoke directly to you, so it ended up a bit of both. I’m going to offer some critiques of some of your points, agree with you sometimes, and sometimes when you particularly address Dean, just not say anything at all.

Read more on Eve’s Blog or watch here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OB_n8ZWfMYo

Atheism Cult’s Catalog of Anti-Theist Psychological Tactics (draft two)

Inspired from a classic MRA document, the Catalog of Anti-Male Shaming tactics,”  this is the first draft of a hopefully growing list of rote-response Talking Points used by Atheism cultists routinely to shift the subject away from the dogmatic, unproven, pseudoscience and/or pseudohistory peddled by the modern Atheism cult.

If Atheism is not a movement why do they have logos?

If Atheism is not a movement why do they have logos?

To be clear, these are things that routinely come out of Atheist mouths these days. I am open to input for any I have missed. The list may also benefit from categorization–this is a second draft for public scrutiny, the first, with little difference, is on my blog –DE

Scripted Robotic Atheist Comments – Draft Two:

You’re simpleminded and childish.

I don’t believe in your particular Sky fairy I understand Science!

You have an Imaginary Friend you call God or whatever.

You’re in denial about reality.

You’re just afraid to die.

You can’t accept that Science has defeated your Bronze Age superstition.

No matter what you say, Evolution is still right!

Learn Science! Didn’t anyone tell you about the Big Bang?

You don’t want to give up your cherished beliefs

You’re bitter because Atheism is now popular and your religion is dying.

All religion is dying science has triumphed over it and that makes you afraid.

You just want people’s minds to be controlled.

You’re afraid to think for yourself.

You’re exaggerating the hatefulness of Atheism.

You’re paranoid about Atheists and see Atheists everywhere.

I’m not even an Atheist! I’m just agnostic/apatheist/Christian who agrees with all Atheism cult Talking Points.

You just want your religion in charge of everything.

You just hate that anyone is having sex without your permission.

You hate gays and want to control/convert/brainwash/imprison/kill them.

You hate women and want to control them.

You hate all Atheists.

You’re delusional/crazy.

Real men don’t kneel to anyone or anything!

Independent minds worship nothing!

You just want to force women/men to get married and have children.

Your religion is scary: [insert random Futrellized Bible verse here]

Inquisitions

Witch hunts

Crusades

Religion creates war.

You’re one of those right-wing wackos.

You’re a closet commie.

You’re an extremist.

You sound like the KKK. The KKK was Christian and responsible for all the lynchings and racism.

Stop generalizing! Not All Atheists Are Like That!

That’s an anti-Atheist stereotype!

Why do you hate women?

You are insensitive to the plight of your religion’s victims!

You are mean-spirited.

You want to roll back civil rights of women!

You’re being rude and that makes me think I should avoid your religion.

Shouldn’t you be nice to people? Isn’t that what Jesus said?

You’re unstable.

You have issues.

You need therapy.

Weirdo!

You just want money for your religious scam.

How can you be so rude to someone who was abused by religious authority figures?

You were never really an Atheist.

You just don’t understand True Atheism.

I just worship one less god than you!

You have no evidence!

NB: More suggestions are welcome! –DE

 

Disturbing questions to ask Atheists

At the prompting of they guys at the “Rome Is Burning” Show (please click here please go check them out). This is not a paid endorsement as we do not do any product endorsements at this time on Escaping Atheism (though we’re not opposed to it since Escaping Atheism is most assuredly NOT an authorized ministry of any Church).

So a few weeks ago I had an interesting conversation with Wil at Placeholder Films. I ran my mouth long as I often do, but it was an interesting conversation. I explained how I walked all the way from Atheism Central to Vatican City, but in the second half hour I had some questions for him that I was certain would convince a rational person that there is something intensely ideological and rather predictable about the way Atheists think. I was really pretty sure that with some reflection, almost all his answers were faith statements, or let’s call them sentiment. I got them all from conversations with Atheists and things I would sometimes think when I was an Atheist.

A lot of people found these questions and answers interesting so I’m pasting them below the video conversation we had. And we’re scheduled to talk with Wil again tomorrow around 2pm Eastern on his channel. Can’t wait!

Hey by the way please support us in work like this on Patreon, yo!

Here were the questions I asked this bright young man. Do you the listener/supporter or even critic/”skeptic” have suggestions on how to sharpen the questions? Because I think this informal experiment bears repeating for any Christians or members of other religions:

Answer Yes or No (or “lean mostly yes” or “lean mostly no”):

1 Atheism is not a belief, it’s lack of belief. It is totally non-ideological.
2 Atheism says nothing whatsoever about your personality or your views.
3 Atheism is about science, logic, reason, and evidence. Religion is the opposite of those things.
4 Atheism is about facts over feelings.
5 Atheism frees minds and teaches people how to think for themselves.
6 There is no evidence for God

7 Science is how we determine if things are true or not.
8 The reason we can trust science is that it frequently overturns itself if it turns out to be wrong.
9 Science is something that helps you overcome religion.
10 Religion is delusional or brainwashing.
11 Overcoming religion is a good thing because it’s backward superstition holding back human progress and enlightenment.

12 Skepticism is a scientific principle or is inherently scientific.
13 Occam’s Razor is a scientific principle or is inherently scientific.

14 If you see something that seems impossible, you must have imagined it or were always just fooled.
15 The laws of physics don’t change or, if they do, they only change in ways scientists can predict and measure.

16 The human mind is entirely a property or function or emergent effects of chemicals in the brain and/or Central Nervous System.
17 There are no forces, phenomena, or entities which exist outside of or apart from physical nature.
18 The laws of physics are explained by science.

19 If God exists, human beings are intelligent, wise, and moral enough to pass judgement on God’s actions and motives.

20 It is appropropriate to worry about the effects of religion on people, but there’s no reason to worry about Atheism.

(Prepared for a podcast.)

Update: Screen shot of original article before this update here: http://imgur.com/a/BuBlw

(Provided because Atheists tend to quickly pounce on any deviation as an act of bad faith):

Here is how I marked Wil’s answers:

1 Atheism is not a belief, it’s lack of belief. It is totally non-ideological. Yes
2 Atheism says nothing whatsoever about your personality or your views. Yes
3 Atheism is about science, logic, reason, and evidence. Religion is the opposite of those things. No/not
4 Atheism is about facts over feelings. Yes
5 Atheism frees minds and teaches people how to think for themselves. Neutral
6 There is no evidence for God. Yes

7 Science is how we determine if things are true or not. Yes
8 The reason we can trust science is that it frequently overturns itself if it turns out to be wrong. No
9 Science is something that helps you overcome religion. NO
10 Religion is delusional or brainwashing. Yes
11 Overcoming religion is a good thing because it’s backward superstition holding back human progress and enlightenment. Yes

12 Skepticism is a scientific principle or is inherently scientific. No (but core, needed)
13 Occam’s Razor is a scientific principle or is inherently scientific. Yes

14 If you see something that seems impossible, you must have imagined it or were always just fooled. NO
15 The laws of physics don’t change or, if they do, they only change in ways scientists can predict and measure. No* (quantum objection)

16 The human mind is entirely a property or function or emergent effects of chemicals. in the brain and/or Central Nervous System. Yes
17 There are no forces, phenomena, or entities which exist outside of or apart from physical nature. Yes
18 The laws of physics are explained by science. Yes

19 If God exists, human beings are intelligent, wise, and moral enough to pass judgement on God’s actions and motives. Yes

20 It is appropropriate to worry about the effects of religion on people, but there’s no reason to worry about Atheism. No

 

Once again Wil is not to be crucified for his responses (pun intended) because they were asked off the top of his head, the fact that they are general sentiment not ironclad ideas is accepted, where he took exception I noted he took some exception and you can decide what you think. But here were his answers. And any serious Non-Atheist would answer “No” to most or all these questions, and almost any Atheist would be predicted to lean “Yes” on most of them.

“Atheist/Skeptic/Rationalist” community you have an ideology problem and it’s quite glaring. Especially when you keep screaming that you can ‘t have one.

Wil’s answers:

1 Atheism is not a belief, it’s lack of belief. It is totally non-ideological. Yes
2 Atheism says nothing whatsoever about your personality or your views. Yes
3 Atheism is about science, logic, reason, and evidence. Religion is the opposite of those things. No
4 Atheism is about facts over feelings. Yes
5 Atheism frees minds and teaches people how to think for themselves. Neutral
6 There is no evidence for God. Yes

7 Science is how we determine if things are true or not. Yes
8 The reason we can trust science is that it frequently overturns itself if it turns out to be wrong. No
9 Science is something that helps you overcome religion. No (some maybe)
10 Religion is delusional or brainwashing. Yes
11 Overcoming religion is a good thing because it’s backward superstition holding back human progress and enlightenment. Yes

12 Skepticism is a scientific principle or is inherently scientific. No (but core, needed)
13 Occam’s Razor is a scientific principle or is inherently scientific. Yes

14 If you see something that seems impossible, you must have imagined it or were always just fooled. NO
15 The laws of physics don’t change or, if they do, they only change in ways scientists can predict and measure. No* (quantum objection)

16 The human mind is entirely a property or function or emergent effects of chemicals. in the brain and/or Central Nervous System. Yes
17 There are no forces, phenomena, or entities which exist outside of or apart from physical nature. Yes
18 The laws of physics are explained by science. Yes

19 If God exists, human beings are intelligent, wise, and moral enough to pass judgement on God’s actions and motives. Yes

20 It is appropropriate to worry about the effects of religion on people, but there’s no reason to worry about Atheism. No